What's a stacked wrestler?

[dpbarnes]

I believe I've explained in one of the other threads about my ignorance of the definition of a stacked wrestler. Could somebody please explain to me what it means to have a stacked wrestler, and what it means to have a balanced wrestler, so I know what to look for when someone complains to me about a wrestler's stats being stacked? I thought I could find an answer on one of the other boards, but my search proved fruitless.

[soug]

a stacked wrestler is one who is strong on offence as well as defence.
If you look through the history of COTG wrestlers very few wrestlers were stacked. Maybe Chaos and in more recent times Endgame and Monolith.
For example a wrestler has a -3 move on level 1 offence and three -3 moves on level 2 offence .
then on defence they have more than 2 combacks on level 2 defence.
even the greats like Bloodline, Spike only had 2 combacks on level 2 defence.
Then there are wrestlers whos comebacks on level 2 defence are better than on level 1 defence......that's just wrong.
Then you have wrestlers with great comebacks, and a pin rating of 4. Again , in gotg history, all the big men with lots of comebacks usually had a pin rating of 8 ( Man Mountain, Pegasus).....6 at best.
Wrestlers who are strong on agility and power. You cant have a guy who's -3 on both.
As for finishers . It's common place in the PFW for nearly every wrestler to have 2 finishers. So I guess that's accepted.....but , again, there arent that great a percentage of wrestlers in the GWF that do.
Thats about all i can think of right now.

[dpbarnes]

soug said:

a stacked wrestler is one who is strong on offence as well as defence.
If you look through the history of COTG wrestlers very few wrestlers were stacked. Maybe Chaos and in more recent times Endgame and Monolith.
For example a wrestler has a -3 move on level 1 offence and three -3 moves on level 2 offence .
then on defence they have more than 2 combacks on level 2 defence.
even the greats like Bloodline, Spike only had 2 combacks on level 2 defence.
Then there are wrestlers whos comebacks on level 2 defence are better than on level 1 defence......that's just wrong.
Then you have wrestlers with great comebacks, and a pin rating of 4. Again , in gotg history, all the big men with lots of comebacks usually had a pin rating of 8 ( Man Mountain, Pegasus).....6 at best.
Wrestlers who are strong on agility and power. You cant have a guy who's -3 on both.
As for finishers . It's common place in the PFW for nearly every wrestler to have 2 finishers. So I guess that's accepted.....but , again, there arent that great a percentage of wrestlers in the GWF that do.
Thats about all i can think of right now.

Thanks, Soug. That helps. I agree that having better comebacks on Level 2 defense than on Level 1 defense is wrong, because according to the guidelines, the better comebacks are supposed to occur more often on Level 1 defense. As for wrestlers having a level 3 move on Level 1 offense, I always thought it was commonplace. Usually, there's only one level 3 move on level 1 offense. I've seen it on nearly every official card. From studying all of the official cards, I've always noticed that Tom, Mark, or whomever creates the movesets for the LWF cards go by the following pattern: 2 Level 1 moves, 5 or 6 Level 2 Moves, and 6 or 7 Level 3 moves, and at least 1 or 2 finishing moves. (I cite the original Star Warrior card when I mention the 6 or 7 Level 3 moves as an example, so maybe even Tom's a bit guilty of stacking his cards as well. I guess it would depend on how the moveset fits the character.)

[soug]

it's cool to have a -3 move on level 1 offence, but not when you have three - 3 moves on level 2 offence. I know its common place in the PFW characters but if you check out COTG characters very few characters do.
Most characters in the COTG will have a -3 move on L1 offence and two -2 moves on level 2 offence.
Or if they have three -3 moves on L2 offence then on L1 offence its usually a -2 move with a (ch ) situation.

[Turkish]

The Level 1 defense is better than level 2 is not a hard rule though- that one is bent ofte- Example a character has one turnaround on L1D and 2 on L2d one of which is "name-2"

No gross things like one L1D turnaround and 3 or 4 L2D turnarounds, though. Some guys do have two turnarounds on L1D and Three on L2D.
But hey no big deal and it is not that often.

Soug had it pretty good with the stacked cards.

I would also add high finisher ratings or multiple finishers with high ratings (anything +5 or better always has some mehcanic to miss or not get it; +2 is the moost we have seen from double finishers, except Endgame with a +2/+3)